1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,680 This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,280 Whenever possible, the actual family members and police 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,280 officials have participated in recreating the events. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,880 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries, the story of a lonely housewife 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,820 in Maine who searched for love in her newspaper's 7 00:00:23,820 --> 00:00:25,560 personal columns. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Two years ago, the story of a lonely housewife 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,800 two years ago, she went on a blind date and vanished. 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,560 And on the Queen Mary, dozens of eyewitnesses 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,500 plainly have seen or heard ghosts. 12 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:42,240 Last month, parapsychologists tape recorded 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,140 phantom sounds of what some believe 14 00:00:44,140 --> 00:00:48,840 is a shipwreck that took place 40 years earlier. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,620 We'll also examine the case of a man 16 00:00:50,620 --> 00:00:53,980 awaiting trial for the murder of two teenage girls. 17 00:00:53,980 --> 00:00:55,880 Joe Shepard has escaped. 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,360 Perhaps you can help catch him. 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,200 The nice cases feature ordinary people thrust 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,720 into a vortex of mystery, heartbreak, and intrigue. 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,360 Each one is searching for that vital clue to end a story 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,800 that so far has no ending. 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,600 Perhaps you can help. 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,760 Join me. 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,040 You may be able to help solve a mystery. 26 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:51,040 The Queen Mary 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:59,040 The Queen Mary 28 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:09,040 The Queen Mary 29 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,680 This is the Queen Mary, now permanently moored 30 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,040 in Long Beach, California. 31 00:02:16,540 --> 00:02:18,640 On her decks and in her quarters, 32 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:24,160 people have seen and heard things they can't explain. 33 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,960 I'd been here about 14 years when 34 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,840 I had the first experience with actually seeing 35 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,680 what I thought to be a ghost. 36 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,680 It was a December morning. 37 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,240 I was in the work area. 38 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,080 And for some reason, I picked up a cup of coffee, 39 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,480 went out to the table, and there was a lady sitting there. 40 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,200 I was so fascinated by her dress. 41 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,680 She appeared to be in a late afternoon cocktail-type 42 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,360 dress from the 40s. 43 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,480 She had dark hair, rolled at the sides, no makeup on. 44 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,160 She seemed to be very pale. 45 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,840 But I never saw a movement. 46 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,560 I left the table, went up about 10 feet, 47 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,240 turned around because I wanted to take another look, 48 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,280 and there was nothing there. 49 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,280 The Queen Mary 50 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,400 I am probably the last person that 51 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,600 should have had these experiences 52 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,800 because I'm such a skeptic. 53 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,440 One day, I was standing on the stairs of the pool. 54 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,000 And out of the corner of my right eye, 55 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,080 I saw a woman probably in her 60s or 70s in black and white. 56 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,720 So I went down the stairs and around the pillar 57 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,680 expecting to find her standing there. 58 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,040 And she wasn't anywhere to be found. 59 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,160 It was only a matter of seconds. 60 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,200 She couldn't have gone anywhere. 61 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,400 Several others, besides Carol and Nancy, 62 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,120 say they have seen or heard ghosts here in the Queen Mary's 63 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,320 first class pool. 64 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,760 How do we explain these sightings 65 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,160 to reportedly well-balanced, level-headed people? 66 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,840 Could they simply result from the power of suggestion 67 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,640 stimulated by an eerie location? 68 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,640 Some parapsychologists believe that all locations are haunted. 69 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,760 That is, they retain memories of past events, 70 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,200 as some people with psychic sensitivities, their ESP, 71 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,360 experience as hauntings. 72 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,040 Whatever the explanation, the Queen Mary 73 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,080 seems to be inhabited by something ethereal that 74 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,080 has been seen and heard, but not explained. 75 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,320 Oh, I'm happy and gay because I'm sailing away. 76 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,600 The Queen Mary took her maiden voyage on May 27, 1936 77 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,480 and transported the titled and elite 78 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,240 from both sides of the Atlantic. 79 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,800 The Queen Mary, how'd you like to come with me? 80 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,080 During that five-day voyage, the Queen Mary 81 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,680 was a floating party, a living symbol of luxury travel. 82 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:59,680 I abrazish proof so when I go over the sea, 83 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,640 the Queen Mary takes me. 84 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,480 In the Second World War, the Queen Mary 85 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,520 was turned into a troop ship. 86 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,640 Due to her ghostly gray camouflage, 87 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,320 she was ironically nicknamed the Gray Ghost. 88 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,520 After the war, she reverted back to her former glory 89 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:27,040 and crossed the ocean a total of 1,001 times. 90 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,480 In the over 30 years the ship was at sea, 91 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,240 she witnessed four births and at least 49 recorded deaths. 92 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,280 After her arrival in Long Beach in 1967, 93 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:43,240 one of the first people to work on board 94 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,400 was Marine engineer John Smith. 95 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Part of my duties was to check and learn this ship thoroughly. 96 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,920 And so I explored it in the evenings 97 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,040 on my regular days work was done. 98 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,960 His job took him into the remote regions of the ship's bow. 99 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,440 And several times over a two-month period, 100 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,160 he heard something where there should only have been silence. 101 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,640 He heard the sounds of metal tearing, water rushing, 102 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,640 and then men screaming. 103 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,120 It sounded like there had been a rupture of the ship's hull. 104 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,200 It was frightful. 105 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,640 I went up to the extreme bow section of the ship. 106 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,400 The sound was here, but there was no water. 107 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,520 Had nothing to cause it. 108 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,040 I don't believe in supernatural things, 109 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,640 but in all my experiences as a marine engineer, 110 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,040 I've never seen anything like this. 111 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,160 Years later, Smith read about a wartime tragedy. 112 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,000 The Queen marries accidental collision 113 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,200 with a British cruiser named the Curacaoa. 114 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Over 300 men were killed. 115 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,160 The Queen marries bow sliced the Curacaoa in half. 116 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:09,320 After I read that article, I was so shook up and so overwhelmed. 117 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,360 The very area I heard that mysterious water rushing 118 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,680 was this exact same area that was damaged when the ship hit 119 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,920 the Curacaoa. 120 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,280 I said, this is what it would have sounded and felt like 121 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,480 if it had been in that compartment at the time. 122 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,600 But I knew it couldn't be. 123 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,960 That was 30 years earlier. 124 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,240 It couldn't be anything. 125 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,040 Over the years, dozens of sightings have been reported. 126 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Late one night in the pool area, maintenance supervisor 127 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,480 Kathy Love and a co-worker heard mysterious sounds. 128 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:56,640 We came into the pool and I heard giggling, 129 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,520 the sound of a little girl or a child playing in the area. 130 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,200 And at that point, I noticed there was splashing. 131 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,200 The splashing stopped. 132 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,640 The giggling continued. 133 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,200 And we observed the footprints of a small child walking 134 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,640 across into the locker room. 135 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,480 I know that I saw what I saw. 136 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,160 I know that I saw what I saw. 137 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,760 I'm not sure exactly why I saw it. 138 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:43,560 But I know it was there. 139 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,120 Several unexplained encounters have occurred in Shaft 140 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Alley, deep within the ship, near the engine room. 141 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,800 Here, in 1966, during a routine fire drill, 142 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,600 a man named John Pedder was crushed to death 143 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,840 on a watertight door. 144 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,280 Some believe Pedder still haunts Shaft Alley. 145 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,800 What did they say he was? 146 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,640 It was down here in Shaft Alley somewhere. 147 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,560 Both tour members and employees have experienced hauntings 148 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:25,520 in Shaft Alley. 149 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Blue coveralls in the beard? 150 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Yeah, I said it was dressed in blue coveralls 151 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,000 and he had a beard. 152 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,080 There was two different tour groups that said it. 153 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,400 I had a second experience down in Shaft Alley. 154 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,880 It was about 5.30 or 6 o'clock in the evening. 155 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,200 I was working in the capacity of a lead guide, which 156 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,040 meant my job was to close down the tour route 157 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,280 and make sure that there weren't any stragglers behind. 158 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,200 And I don't know why I turned around, 159 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,440 but I turned around and standing right behind me 160 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,360 on the step was a man. 161 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,080 He had blue overalls. 162 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,160 They were dirty. 163 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,760 When I stepped aside to let him go by, 164 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,160 he wasn't there. 165 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,160 He was gone. 166 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,640 I don't necessarily believe any other ghost stories 167 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:09,920 that other people have come up with. 168 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,840 I only know what I saw and I only 169 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,080 believe what I saw with my own eyes. 170 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Last month, unsolved mysteries brought to the Queen Mary, 171 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,160 a team of experts who've spent decades 172 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,360 investigating hauntings. 173 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,040 Using sophisticated recording equipment, 174 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,920 they would attempt to verify the eyewitness accounts. 175 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,800 As soon as I got around the corner, it started again. 176 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,440 He came in here and he came out as well. 177 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Danish-born William Rohl is one of the world's leading 178 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,480 authorities on poltergeists. 179 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,360 I'm often asked the question, do you believe in ghosts? 180 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,120 And what I expect I will be asked when 181 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,360 I finish this investigation, are there ghosts on the ship? 182 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,600 And these are questions that I cannot answer. 183 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,600 Tony Cornell has researched paranormal activity for 25 years. 184 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,000 I am a skeptic, but at the same time, 185 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,600 I must allow for the fact that other people who 186 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,880 are very sane and sensible have seen things and experienced 187 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,600 things. 188 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,200 The apperitional stuff, I think, is probably the most 189 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,200 interesting. 190 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,600 The stuff in the pool and the stuff in Shaft Alley. 191 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,760 Look as if they are repeated cases so often 192 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,440 that they must be genuine. 193 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,160 Cornell set up his surveillance equipment. 194 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,280 William Rohl led a team of psychics on board. 195 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,640 All six claimed to know nothing about the ship's history 196 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,360 or about the haunting occurrences. 197 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,320 Armed with maps and their psychic sensitivity, 198 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,640 they struck off in many different directions, alone. 199 00:11:51,600 --> 00:12:13,400 After this search, the psychics gathered together to compare notes. 200 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,360 Though some had nothing to report, 201 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,560 others sensed a great deal of activity 202 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:19,840 that coincided with eyewitness reports. 203 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,760 Did you mention something about a collision or something like that? 204 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,920 Yeah, I felt a collision. 205 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,560 I see. 206 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:29,280 I felt the impression of a collision. 207 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:29,760 I see. 208 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,200 Do you know the histories of Queen Mary? 209 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,000 No. 210 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:32,400 Sure. 211 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,280 I don't. 212 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,920 But I definitely felt the movement of the ship. 213 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:41,200 And I felt a jerking hit and the sensation from the body. 214 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,520 And I did hear footsteps. 215 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,440 I see. 216 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,240 So let's go to the next one. 217 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,480 In Shaft Alley, one psychic sensed a 20-year-old tragedy. 218 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,200 Janice, would you describe your experiences in that area? 219 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,360 I felt that there had been not that I was hearing it physically, 220 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,720 but that at times someone could hear a very rhythmical banging 221 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,760 as if someone had a wrench or a large piece of iron banging against a wrench. 222 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,400 A wrench. 223 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,400 A wrench. 224 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,320 That was the... 225 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,160 Not a hammer. 226 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,640 No, it would be a wrench. 227 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Someone had apparently gotten trapped. 228 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,040 It is a fact that some psychics managed to pick up things. 229 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,360 And you can't quite see how they got it. 230 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,040 But you've got to be suspicious about this, 231 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,920 because there's a thing called feedback. 232 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,440 I mean, I've met enough mediums now who've read what they want to tell you 233 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,800 in the newspaper. 234 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,760 One investigator did find something. 235 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,400 While William Rohl was surveying the bow area, 236 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,920 he heard some unusual sounds he couldn't explain. 237 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:48,280 There was the sound of two men talking. 238 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:55,400 And it was heard by the security guard who brought me there and by myself. 239 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:03,000 And it seemed to come from the lower levels, the bow of the ship. 240 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,400 In 30 years of investigation, this was the first time 241 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,080 that Rohl had heard an unexplained sound that had been reported by a witness. 242 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:16,320 In this case, he believes what he perceived was genuine. 243 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,080 Rohl placed a voice-activated tape recorder in the bow area 244 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,360 at the same spot where the voices were heard. 245 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,800 X-ray 15 AM. 246 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,160 For most of the night, this is what was recorded. 247 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Nothing. 248 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,400 In the early morning, for a full two minutes, 249 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:41,080 the tape recorder picked up sounds where no sounds should be. 250 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,360 This is a condensed version of the actual tape. 251 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Earlier, the bow had been sealed off. 252 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,840 The researchers attempted to duplicate the sounds through mechanical means. 253 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,520 They were unsuccessful. 254 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:20,080 What we can conclude is that there is a physical source for the sounds. 255 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,960 Now, is it parapsychological or does it have some other kind of source? 256 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,160 And that still remains uncertain. 257 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:33,080 A man has had this kind of experience as long as recorded history. 258 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,480 It is a human experience. 259 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,840 It's going to continue going on and somebody's got to look at it. 260 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,560 It's a challenge and it's a mystery that has got to be solved. 261 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,400 What can explain these hauntings? 262 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Overactive imagination? 263 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,280 A quest for publicity? 264 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,200 Or something more intangible? 265 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,720 Something supernatural? 266 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,760 Is the Queen Mary haunted? 267 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,080 We cannot say yes, but we cannot say no. 268 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,840 THE PART OF THE TENSEY 269 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,560 February 27, 1978, Telico Plains, Tennessee. 270 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,840 In a parked car, 16-year-old Roxanne Woodson 271 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,920 fought off the advances of a man named Joe Shepard. 272 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,520 Two friends watched from the back seat. 273 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Roxanne escaped and ran off into the night. 274 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Joe chased after her. 275 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,440 Roxanne never returned. 276 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,560 When Roxanne failed to come home, 277 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,960 her family began to worry. 278 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,960 She'd just wring her hands and there's no outlet. 279 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,120 There's no relief because you haven't got her. 280 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,160 She's gone. 281 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,200 You don't know what's happened to her. 282 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,360 And she's out there and you can't reach her. 283 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:07,280 And you can't help her. 284 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,120 After 10 years, the case of Roxanne Woodson 285 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:12,400 still haunts her family and everyone living 286 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,880 in Telico Plains, Tennessee. 287 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,880 For weeks, there was no trace of Roxanne. 288 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,440 And as her investigation unfolded, 289 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,840 the police became convinced that the last person who saw her, 290 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,600 Joe Shepard, is a psychopathic killer. 291 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,080 The night after Roxanne Woodson was reported missing, 292 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,120 police went to the home where Joe Shepard lived with his parents 293 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:35,520 to take him in for questioning. 294 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,480 My hands, shoes, I'll get this one. 295 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,040 The officers waited while Joe went into his bedroom 296 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,600 to put on his boots. 297 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:46,880 The agents wants to talk to him. 298 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,680 What was he doing about Joe's talk to him over and over again? 299 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,360 Joe reached for a shotgun. 300 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:55,760 Got him, baby. 301 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,080 The officers fired two warning shots. 302 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,880 After a brief struggle, they wrestled a gun away from him. 303 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,600 He was then brought in for interrogation. 304 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,960 When was the last time you saw Roxanne Woodson? 305 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,560 Joe's initial story was that he had attempted to seduce Roxanne, 306 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,960 and she had gotten mad at him at his persistent efforts 307 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,920 and had jumped from the car and run into the woods, 308 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,640 that he went running after her. 309 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,160 And finally, Joe came back telling the two boys 310 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,360 that he'd tried to get her back and that he 311 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:34,920 didn't know where she'd gone. 312 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,840 Joe Shepard was booked for assaulting a police officer, 313 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,680 made bond, and was released. 314 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,840 For several days, over 60 people combed through the woods 315 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,920 looking for Roxanne. 316 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,640 Joe voluntarily joined them. 317 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,760 The police brought in dogs to follow Roxanne's scent 318 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,000 into the woods. 319 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,880 They tracked her only a few yards, 320 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,360 and then the train abruptly stopped. 321 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,160 Still, the searchers found no trace of Roxanne, 322 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,040 and the girl's family began to panic. 323 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,520 We just fell on her knees and said, oh, god, no, oh, god, no. 324 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,840 Not her. 325 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,000 She loved her daddy so much, and he knew she would not 326 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,880 have ran off. 327 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,880 After a few frustrating days, the search was called off. 328 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,160 Roxanne Woodson had vanished. 329 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,520 Until the afternoon of April 8, 1978. 330 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,520 Roxanne's body was found after Joe's mother was 331 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,680 standing at the window in the kitchen looking out, 332 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,600 and she noticed that the dogs were digging and going on 333 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,760 at one specific location there. 334 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,560 And she became alarmed. 335 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,000 She went outside and walked up on what proved to be two hands 336 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,400 sticking out of the ground. 337 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,800 Oh! 338 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,600 Moe! 339 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,600 Moe! 340 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,600 Moe! 341 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,480 She notified the authorities at that time, 342 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,480 and they came to the shepherd's home 343 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,120 and did remove the body of Roxanne Woodson 344 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:19,040 from Joe's shepherd's mother and father's yard. 345 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,480 Roxanne had been buried in a shallow grave. 346 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,160 Some of her clothes were missing, 347 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,400 and her pants had been wrapped around her head. 348 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,160 At that point, the Monroe County Sheriff's Deputy 349 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,400 took out a warrant charging the suspect, Joe Sheppard, 350 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,400 of the First Degree of Murder. 351 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,520 We went to his mother-in-law, ex-mother-in-law's home 352 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,640 to conduct the search, and they told us he wasn't there. 353 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,440 We went in and searched the house and found him. 354 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,720 There was a child in the bed, and he was rolled up 355 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,240 in the covers under the foot of the bed, 356 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,120 like the cover was just rolled under the foot of the bed. 357 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,320 He was hidden in there. 358 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,120 Joe, look at me. 359 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:04,520 We found Roxanne, Joe. 360 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,440 We found her, Joe. 361 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,840 Look here, Joe. 362 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Found her buried in your friend's yard. 363 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,040 Look at him, Joe. 364 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,040 We found her buried in your yard. 365 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,040 Dirty a second interrogation, Joe's story began to change. 366 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,040 Come on, Joe. 367 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Just tell us the truth. 368 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,040 What happened to her? 369 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,640 Joe began to fill in the blanks of the segment 370 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,440 that he had earlier given, and he said that when Roxanne ran 371 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,640 from the car and into the woods, he gave chase, 372 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,440 and that as she was running through the woods, 373 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,440 as she had fallen and struck her head. 374 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,440 Roxanne. 375 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,440 Roxanne. 376 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,040 She'd hit her head or something, and I tried to... 377 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,440 I come up on her and... 378 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,840 I tried to revive her. 379 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,840 I thought maybe she was just knocked out. 380 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,840 He told investigators that he panicked 381 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,540 and returned to his car and companions. 382 00:21:57,540 --> 00:21:59,740 They left the area. 383 00:21:59,740 --> 00:22:03,640 Joe claimed he returned to the scene later that same night. 384 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,680 Unsure whether Roxanne was dead or alive, 385 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,040 he carried her back to his car. 386 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,640 He placed the girl inside and drove off into the night. 387 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,840 I didn't do nothing to her. 388 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040 All I did is I figured, you know, 389 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,640 something could happen to her out there, 390 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,640 an animal or something, so I thought I'll bury her. 391 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,640 That's what I'll do, though. 392 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,640 So I did. 393 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,640 I took her... 394 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,640 I took her back to the house of Mary. 395 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,040 According to Joe Shepherd, not knowing what to do with her 396 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,040 and his previous encounters with the law, 397 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,040 he was afraid to contact any law enforcement. 398 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,840 So then he decided to bury her, 399 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,640 and he could find her other place other than his residence 400 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,640 there in Telco Plain. 401 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:51,040 He never did actually admit to being responsible for her death. 402 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,840 He admitted he had been with her and that she had died 403 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,840 as a result of some sort of head injury 404 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,840 that she had attained when she failed. 405 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,840 As a result of your investigation... 406 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,840 Joe was brought before a judge. 407 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,840 He recommended that Joe be formally charged 408 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,840 with a murder of Roxanne Woodson. 409 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,840 He was charged with a murder of Roxanne Woodson. 410 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,840 He was charged with a murder of a man who was killed 411 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,040 by a murder of Roxanne Woodson. 412 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,040 The grand jury bond is set at $150,000. 413 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,040 As a Roxanne Woodson story began to draw to a close, 414 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,040 another murder case was about to be reopened. 415 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,040 After Joe had been charged in regards to the homicide, 416 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,040 the investigators who had talked with him and questioned him, 417 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,040 they had became pretty much buddies. 418 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,040 Joe had learned to trust these people, 419 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,040 and he wanted to help them. 420 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,240 Detective Joe Grays had received an anonymous phone call 421 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,240 linking Joe to another disappearance. 422 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,240 That of a girl named Kathy Clowers, 423 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,240 a local 14-year-old who had vanished two years earlier. 424 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,240 I can take you to the last place I saw her. 425 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,240 I need you to take us and show us where she is now. 426 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,240 Can you do that? 427 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Yeah, I can take you there. 428 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,440 Joe told them that not only did he know Kathy Clowers, 429 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,440 but he knew where she was buried. 430 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,440 He offered to take them there. 431 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,440 I have mine. 432 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,440 We went into the woods, probably a couple hundred yards 433 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,440 off the highway. 434 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,440 Joe had designated a spot where we ought to dig. 435 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,440 We had taken along pickaxe and shovel and such, 436 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,440 and started digging in the ground. 437 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,440 We'd gone down some depth and hadn't uncovered her body at all. 438 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,440 I took the pickaxe just to sort of relieve the guy 439 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,440 who had been doing the digging, 440 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,440 and after about the second effort, 441 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,440 a piece of red cloth came up on the head of the pickaxe. 442 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,440 I'll never forget Joe Shepard was hunkered down 443 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,640 by the hole we were digging, 444 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,640 and he looked up with his cold smile on his face 445 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,640 and said, see, I told you something. 446 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,640 He was proud, I think, of the fact that he had produced 447 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,640 a body for us, and showed no emotion at all. 448 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,640 Though the body was badly decomposed, 449 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,640 Dr. William Bass, a noted forensic anthropologist, 450 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,640 was able to identify it as that of Kathy Clowers. 451 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,640 It looks to be fairly young, maybe mid-teen. 452 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,840 Kathy Clowers had the chip-to-tooth, 453 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,840 and this match, the chip-tooth that she had. 454 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,840 Dr. Bass, is there anything that indicates a cause of death? 455 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,840 There was no evidence on the skeleton of cause of death. 456 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,840 There were no gunshot wounds, no stab wounds, 457 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,840 no broken bones. 458 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,840 Whatever caused death 459 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,840 did not leave its mark on the skeleton. 460 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,840 The clothing of this girl, the pants, 461 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,840 the pants they had been wrapped around her head, 462 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,040 was very similar to the man in which the 463 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,040 Woodson child had been buried. 464 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,040 There had been pants laid wrapped around her head. 465 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,040 On April 17, 1978, 466 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Joe Shepherd was formally indicted for the murder of Kathy Clowers. 467 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,040 While awaiting trial for the double homicides, 468 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,040 Joe was held at the Bradley County Jail. 469 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,040 On July 17, 1978, 470 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,240 one of the jailers was summoned to a cell near Joe's. 471 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,240 What's the matter with you, boy? 472 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,240 The jailer was lured into the cell by a man feigning sickness. 473 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,240 What's your problem, man? 474 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,240 I don't know. I'm sick. 475 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,240 You make up the room when I'm sure. 476 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,240 After locking up the jailer, 477 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,240 the two men went to Joe Shepherd's cell. 478 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,240 They released him, and the three men fled the prison. 479 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,240 Come on, travel! 480 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,240 While the other two escapees were recaptured 481 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,240 the following week, Joe Shepherd remains at large. 482 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,240 I feel certain that Joe is a danger to society. 483 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,240 The methodology that he put into each act 484 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,240 was that of a very criminal mind. 485 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,240 A mind that feels no guilt 486 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,240 or he is just there to help. 487 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,440 He is just there and he's capable of doing it at any time. 488 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,440 We don't know what sets him on. 489 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,440 I would like to see him brought to justice. 490 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,440 I'd like to see justice done 491 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,440 for personal reasons 492 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,440 and for the love of my granddaughter. 493 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,440 I would like to see it, but also for the ones, 494 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,440 the mothers out there, that their daughters might be in danger. 495 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,440 These pictures of Joe on and Shepherd were taken in 1978. 496 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,440 He is six feet tall and weighs about 150 pounds. 497 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,440 He has brown hair, a scorn is left forearm, 498 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,440 and he may be working as an auto mechanic. 499 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,440 Shepherd has recently been seen in El Paso, Texas, 500 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,440 and the authorities believe he may be living somewhere along the Mexican border. 501 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,440 Update, London, Ontario, Canada. 502 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,440 The ten-year search for Joe Shepherd has ended. 503 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,440 After the unsolved mystery show on October the 5th, 504 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,640 he received a phone call from a local resident 505 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,640 saying that he believed the guy called Shepherd 506 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,640 was in fact living in London under the name Joseph Tripp. 507 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,640 We began an investigation and when we had identified him 508 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,640 to our satisfaction as Shepherd, he was arrested. 509 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,640 At the time of his arrest, 510 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,640 Shepherd was living in a government housing project in London, Ontario, 511 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640 with his common-law wife and their two children. 512 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,840 It seems apparent that Mr. Shepherd was in London, Canada 513 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,840 just within a matter of days after his escape from Bradley County. 514 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,840 Wisconsin Maine. 515 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,840 A picturesque town of 3,000 people. 516 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,840 Each year, vacationers come here to escape. 517 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,840 But for Gail Delano, who lived in Wisconsin, 518 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,840 this vacation paradise was a prison. 519 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,840 She wrote about it in her diary. 520 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,840 Maine seems to bring out the worst in me. 521 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,840 I don't seem into my loneliness. 522 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,840 It just seems to be a very difficult time. 523 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,040 I need someone so desperately, but nothing seems to work. 524 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,040 Gail Delano was twice divorced 525 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,040 and the mother of two teenage boys. 526 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,040 She looked for companionship 527 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,040 in the personal ads of her local newspaper. 528 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,040 When she placed the ads, 529 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,040 she described herself exuberantly. 530 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,040 She said, 531 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040 she was a very lonely person. 532 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,240 When she placed the ads, she described herself exuberantly. 533 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,240 Unique female, 34. 534 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,240 Attractive, trim, intelligent, 535 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,240 affectionate, independent, 536 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,240 slightly crazy night owl. 537 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,240 Likes music, movies, 538 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,240 dance, dining. 539 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,240 Seeks easygoing, intelligent, responsible, 540 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,240 not overweight male for growing relationship. 541 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,440 I'm in Wisconsin. Where are you? 542 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,440 On June 21st, 1986, 543 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Gail Delano drove alone to a restaurant in Brunswick, Maine 544 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,440 to meet a blind date. 545 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,440 Gail's family never saw or heard from her again. 546 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,640 Despite the tone of her personal ads, 547 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,640 Gail Delano was shy and withdrawn. 548 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,640 For Gail placing these ads was an act of courage. 549 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,640 It was also an act of hope. 550 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640 The last entry in her diary read, 551 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,640 it would be nice to find someone to date over the summer. 552 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,640 Who knows? 553 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,640 Maybe I'll get lucky and find someone interesting. 554 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,640 I'm sure I'll find someone interesting. 555 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,840 Gail was searching not only for companionship, 556 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,840 but also for a father figure for her two boys. 557 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,840 Her desperate need to find love placed her in the center 558 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,840 of an unsolved mystery. 559 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840 Friday evening, June 20th, 1986. 560 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,840 Gail's sons recall that she had a 561 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,840 two-and-a-half-hour telephone conversation 562 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,840 with a man named John. 563 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,840 A man they assumed their mother had met through the personal ads. 564 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,040 Mom, this isn't like you. 565 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,040 Well, I'm in a pretty good mood today. 566 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,040 Really? Why? 567 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,040 Got a call from John last night? 568 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,040 The next morning, Gail told her son 569 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,040 she planned to have coffee with John 570 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,040 at the Howard Johnson's in Brunswick. 571 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,040 And then if things went well, 572 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,040 spend the afternoon with him. 573 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Be good while I'm gone. 574 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,040 That night, Gail's 13th birthday, 575 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,240 he returned home from a friend's house. 576 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240 He discovered that his mother was not at home. 577 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,240 Mom. 578 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,240 Ryan was concerned, but not alarmed. 579 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240 Mom. 580 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,240 When Gail did not return home the next night, 581 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,240 her family called the police. 582 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,240 And fought right again. 583 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,240 It was now 37 hours 584 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,240 of the time Gail Delano had left home to meet her date. 585 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,240 The next morning, 586 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,240 he was told that he had been in the hospital 587 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,440 and that Gail Delano had left home to meet her date. 588 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,440 The police immediately searched 589 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,440 the Howard Johnson's parking lot 590 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,440 and located Gail's car. 591 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440 There was no indication at that point 592 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,440 that there was any foul play. 593 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,440 Basically, it was an adult woman 594 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,440 who has gone out and spent the night. 595 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,440 The history we got was 596 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,440 that that's not unusual for her 597 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,440 to spend the night out, 598 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,440 although it was unusual for her to do it without calling. 599 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,440 You know, when she'd been going that long, 600 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,840 it just wasn't right because she was 601 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,840 so careful about 602 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,840 keeping track with the children 603 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,840 where she was. 604 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,840 We knew if she'd been going for that long 605 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,840 that something was haywire. 606 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,840 Gail's family was forced to wait 607 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,840 until 11 o'clock Monday morning 608 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,840 to have her officially declared a missing person. 609 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Only then could the police 610 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,840 search her car. 611 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,840 When we got the car open, 612 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,840 we tried to see if there would be a note 613 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,240 or anything that would be from Gail 614 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,240 that would explain particularly who she was with 615 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,240 because at this point we figured 616 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,240 the guy that she had to date with 617 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,240 had done something. 618 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,240 No, it's pretty clean. 619 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:10,240 And we looked the car over and there was nothing 620 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,240 in the car. 621 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:14,240 Normally I know the person's 622 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:16,240 first and last name 623 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,240 and where he's from, 624 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,240 but this one time we just missed 625 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:22,240 the one had to be that one time. 626 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:24,240 I'd spoken with her earlier 627 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,640 that afternoon and she said 628 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,640 I have a feeling I'm going to have a date 629 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,640 and I'm going to do something happy 630 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,640 and I'm going to have fun this weekend 631 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,640 and then look what happened. 632 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,640 Two hours after the police had removed 633 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,640 Gail's car, 634 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,640 Howard Johnson's bus boy made a startling discovery. 635 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,640 The manager of Howard Johnson 636 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,640 called the Brunswick Police Department 637 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,640 to notify them that one of their bus boys 638 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,040 had been parked in a parking lot 639 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,040 where Gail Gull and those car had been parked 640 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,040 prior to their moving it. 641 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040 When the policeman handed those keys 642 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,040 he said, are these Gail's keys? 643 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,040 And I said, oh my God, I said 644 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,040 they'd have to kill her short 645 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,040 of getting those keys from her 646 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,040 and I just about came unglued then 647 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,040 and I guess I said to Platt 648 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,040 you've got to find my baby 649 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,040 where is she, where is she? 650 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,040 Two weeks later 651 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,040 a nine-year-old boy playing 652 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,440 on the other side of the Howard Johnson's 653 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,440 made a second starting discovery 654 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,440 Gail's purse. 655 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,440 Finding the purse at the parking lot 656 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,440 kind of 657 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,440 raised our concern 658 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,440 about the possibility of foul play. 659 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,440 I was just heart sick 660 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,440 when I found out because 661 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,440 again she would not let go of that handbag 662 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,440 short of being bopped in the head 663 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,440 or dragged away. 664 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,440 We can find an air maybe 665 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,840 Actually the pocket book 666 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,840 was very neat inside 667 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,840 and quite orderly 668 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,840 so it appeared right from the beginning 669 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,840 that it had not been 670 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,840 rifled through by anybody 671 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,840 looking for any type of money 672 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,840 or things of this nature. 673 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,840 Curiously 674 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,840 while the purse appeared untouched 675 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,840 there was no money in it. 676 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,840 Even the emergency $5 bill 677 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,840 that Gail always kept 678 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,840 tucked in a secret compartment 679 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,240 further later on. 680 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,240 Using a date book they found in her purse 681 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,240 detectives Mallett and Bradford 682 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,240 compound a list of the men that Gail 683 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,240 might have dated in the last year. 684 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,240 The last entry in there is 685 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,240 John called 686 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,240 two and a half hours. 687 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,240 One of them was a man named John 688 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,240 from Old Orchard Beach. 689 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,240 Do you have any kind of 690 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,240 quarrel with her? 691 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,240 This man swore he had never dated Gail. 692 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,640 The only time he might have talked to her on the phone 693 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,640 was months before she disappeared. 694 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,640 Not really, it wasn't a ring. 695 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,640 He had a rock solid alibi 696 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,640 for the day Gail vanished. 697 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,640 So did all the other men 698 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,640 the police questioned. 699 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,640 The police were totally baffled. 700 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,640 Gail kept a tale records 701 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,640 of the men who responded to her ads. 702 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,640 Yet there was no record 703 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,640 of a man named John in her files. 704 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,640 Who would call Gail and talk 705 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,640 for two and a half hours a night before she disappeared? 706 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,640 Yeah, yeah, right. 707 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,640 Why were her keys found 708 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,640 in exactly the spot where her car had been parked? 709 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,640 Why was Gail's purse found 710 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,640 on the other side of the restaurant? 711 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,640 Apparently untouched, but with no money in it. 712 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,640 Were the keys in purse 713 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,640 thrown where they lay by someone who attacked Gail? 714 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,640 Or is it possible 715 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,640 Gail placed the keys 716 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,040 in the car and purse herself? 717 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,040 A new theory about Gail's disappearance 718 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,040 emerged when police interviewed 719 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,040 a local late night disc jockey. 720 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,040 I was working in the overnight radio station 721 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,040 and Gail would call 722 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,040 sometime after one o'clock in the morning 723 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,040 just to talk and to go on in general 724 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040 about life experiences. 725 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,040 And then Gail finally 726 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,040 asked if I would like to meet her. 727 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,440 Gail always seemed to be 728 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,440 very, very sad or depressed 729 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,440 almost to the point of not being able to move. 730 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,440 Always you felt that 731 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,440 Gail was just going to 732 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,440 perhaps give up at any moment 733 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,440 just cease to exist 734 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440 disappear literally 735 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,440 sitting there on the couch. 736 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,440 For years Gail had struggled with depression 737 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,440 and had been on medication for it. 738 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,440 Several times she had considered 739 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,440 taking her own life 740 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,840 and talked about it with her sister. 741 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,840 Gail's family reluctantly 742 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,840 considered whether her disappearance 743 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,840 might have been a suicide. 744 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,840 I don't feel that Gail committed suicide 745 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,840 because I don't believe that she would ever have left 746 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,840 and 747 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,840 left us to go through this kind of 748 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,840 pain and not knowing 749 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,840 if she's out there somewhere 750 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,840 I think that she definitely doesn't know who she is 751 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,840 and that would be 752 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,840 of course our best scenario 753 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,240 with the help of truck drivers 754 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,240 Gail's family distributed 755 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,240 missing posters throughout 756 00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,240 the eastern united states 757 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,240 Over a year 758 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,240 after Gail disappeared 759 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,240 a truck driver spotted her missing 760 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,240 poster in a Georgia truck stop. 761 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,240 On Friday, August 14th, 1987 762 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:34,240 I received a phone call 763 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,240 in the evening from a man named 764 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,240 John Scott of Swansea, South Carolina 765 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,640 Earlier that day 766 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,640 he'd seen a missing 767 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,640 person's poster 768 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,640 of Gail Delano 769 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,640 He recognized that woman as one 770 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,640 that he had given a ride to 771 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,640 several months earlier 772 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,640 I was with her 773 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,640 somewhere in the neighborhood of 24 hours 774 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,640 She didn't talk too much 775 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,640 but 776 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,640 she had that northern accent 777 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,640 pretty bad 778 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,640 you know, like the tail system up north 779 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,040 She was sort of a neat type of woman 780 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,040 and mostly 781 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,040 you catch these regular hitchhikers 782 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040 I'd call them and truck stop queen 783 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,040 you don't care how they dress 784 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,040 you don't care how they go 785 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,040 but this woman was dressed pretty neat 786 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,040 you could tell she was bippered 787 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,040 than the regular one, you know what I'm talking about 788 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,040 You can't travel 789 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,040 along the road without any money 790 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,040 I asked him 791 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,040 did he notice anything about her 792 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,040 whether she was on medication 793 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,440 or anything, this one 794 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,440 he did notice some pill bottles 795 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,440 but he had no idea what might be in them 796 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,440 My next question to him 797 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,440 was how sure he felt that this was 798 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,440 in fact Gail Delano 799 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,440 I would bet money on that 800 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,440 that was her 801 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,440 The truck driver story suggested another possibility 802 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,440 that Gail have engineered her own disappearance 803 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,440 from the Brunswick restaurant 804 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,440 Gail could have 805 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,440 told the children that she was going 806 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,440 to a restaurant to meet a gentleman 807 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,440 by the name of John 808 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,440 Gail could have easily driven to the restaurant 809 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,440 parked her car 810 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,440 either concealed the keys 811 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,440 somewhere under the car 812 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,440 or just merely tossed them under the car 813 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,440 Stating to herself, she was going to 814 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,440 give up her identity 815 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,440 throw the purse in the shrubbery 816 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,840 and either catch a ride 817 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,840 with somebody leaving the restaurant area 818 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,840 or perhaps even a truck driver 819 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,840 leave any area 820 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,840 The Gail Delano I met did not seem to have it 821 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,840 together enough or brave enough 822 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,840 or sure of herself enough 823 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,840 to just pack it up and head for another part of the country 824 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,840 without telling anyone what she was doing 825 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,840 I couldn't even get Gail Delano 826 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,840 to go for a Sunday drive 827 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,840 or out to a restaurant 828 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,840 or for an ice cream 829 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,840 and I really cannot picture Gail Delano 830 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:04,240 and just going to the other side of the country 831 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,240 She could just as well have 832 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,240 thrown her hands up and said 833 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,240 the heck with it all and just took off 834 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,240 but what we're afraid of 835 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,240 is that she's out there wandering around 836 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,240 possibly not knowing 837 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,240 who she is needing our help 838 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,240 I wanted to know 839 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,240 that if she's well 840 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,240 unhappy and I pray she is 841 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,240 she doesn't have to come home 842 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,240 she doesn't even have to call 843 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:30,240 if she'll just let somebody know 844 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,640 that she's alive 845 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,640 so that we can 846 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,640 put ourselves at peace 847 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,640 Gail's parents are no closer to the truth 848 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,640 than on the day their daughter disappeared 849 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,640 Was she the victim of foul play 850 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,640 or is she wandering somewhere 851 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,640 unaware of her own identity 852 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,640 or could the blind date with John 853 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,640 merely have been an elaborate ruse 854 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,640 Gail concocted to cover up 855 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,040 her own disappearance 856 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,040 The only thing I want 857 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,040 is to find a man to share my life 858 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,040 I know I'm lonely 859 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,040 and tired of doing it all 860 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,040 by myself 861 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,040 time is becoming a big enemy to me 862 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,040 to say it passes slowly 863 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,040 is a laugh 864 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,040 for me 865 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,040 it seems to stand still 866 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040 Update, Mobile, Alabama 867 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,040 The two and a half year search 868 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,040 for Gail Delano has come to an end 869 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,040 tragically she took her own life 870 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,040 shortly after she disappeared 871 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,040 A forensic administrator in Mobile 872 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,040 watched our program 873 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,040 and recognized Gail's photo 874 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,040 as a woman who had died 875 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,040 in a local hotel room in 1986 876 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,040 When I saw the photograph 877 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,040 I immediately 878 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,040 saw the resemblance 879 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,440 between Ms. Delano 880 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,440 and an unidentified body 881 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,440 that we had in our 882 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,440 laboratory in Mobile 883 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,440 After two weeks of forensic tests 884 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,440 positive identification was made 885 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,440 Police now theorize that Gail Delano 886 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,440 orchestrated her own disappearance 887 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,440 They believe that after she drove to the restaurant 888 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,440 she hid her keys somewhere on the car 889 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,440 removed all the money 890 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,440 from her purse, discarded it 891 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,840 and then flew to Alabama 892 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,840 That evening she checked into a hotel 893 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,840 in Mobile where she registered 894 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,840 under the name Jackie Stafford 895 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,840 Three days later police discovered 896 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,840 her body 897 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,840 She had died from a drug overdose 898 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,840 On November 11th 899 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,840 Gail's family held a memorial service 900 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,840 for her in Brunswick, Maine 901 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,840 Gail's family showed remarkable courage 902 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,840 as for two long years they searched for the truth 903 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,240 Her loss saddens us all 904 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,240 and to her parents and sons we send our deepest sympathy 905 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:08,240 For every mystery 906 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:10,240 someone somewhere 907 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,240 who knows the truth 908 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,240 perhaps that someone is watching 909 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,240 perhaps it's you 910 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,240 you